vs
0:3
overall capability wins (0 ties across 3 scored). Qwen3.8 Max 0902 leads overall.
- Pricing3:0
- Specs0:3
Verdict
Qwen3.8 Max 0902 offers ~30.5x larger context (1M vs 33K); Qwen3.8 Max 0902 allows ~16.0x more max output (131K vs 8K); Qwen2 72B Instruct ships open weights (Tongyi Qianwen).
- Qwen3.8 Max 0902 offers ~30.5x larger context (1M vs 33K)
- Qwen3.8 Max 0902 allows ~16.0x more max output (131K vs 8K)
- Qwen2 72B Instruct ships open weights (Tongyi Qianwen)
- Qwen2 72B Instruct is ~8.3x cheaper on a blended token basis than Qwen3.8 Max 0902
Cost for 1M in + 250K out
Illustrative chat workload at primary-provider list prices.
- Qwen2 72B Instruct
- $0.45
- Qwen3.8 Max 0902
- $3.50
Qwen2 72B Instruct is about 7.8x cheaper on this workload.
Price per 1M tokens
Full comparison
Organization
Alibaba
Alibaba
Family
Qwen
Qwen
License
Tongyi Qianwen
Proprietary
Open weights
Yes
No
Release
Jun 7, 2024
Sep 2, 2026
Knowledge cutoff
-
-
API / provider
Together / Fireworks (ref.)
Alibaba Cloud
Modalities
text → text
text, image, video → text
Specs
Context window
33K
1M
Max output
8K
131K
Parameters
72B
2.4T (95B act.)
Pricing
Input $/1M
$0.35
$2
Output $/1M
$0.40
$6
Blended $/1M (3∶1)
$0.36
$3
Speed
tok/s
65
-
TTFT (s)
0.4
-
Reasoning
MMLU-Pro
—
—
GPQA Diamond
37.1
—
Humanity's Last Exam
3.7
—
AIME 2025
—
—
MATH-500
—
—
Humanity's Last Exam (with tools)
—
—
AA-Omniscience Accuracy
—
—
AA-LCR v1.1
—
—
CritPt
—
—
MMMU-Pro
—
—
IFBench
—
—
Chartography
—
—
Chartography (With Tools)
—
—
Coding
SWE-bench Verified
—
—
SWE-bench Pro
—
—
SWE-bench Multilingual
—
—
LiveCodeBench
—
—
Terminal-Bench 2.1
—
—
Aider Polyglot
—
—
Terminal-Bench 3
—
—
BigCodeBench
—
—
SciCode
—
—
CursorBench
—
—
SWE-Rebench
—
—
NL2Repo-Bench
—
—
DeepSWE
—
—
WebDev Arena
—
1,681
Terminal-Bench 4.0
—
—
CursorBench 4.0
—
—
FrontierCode v1.1 (Main)
—
—
Arena
LMArena Elo
1,262
—
| Metric | Qwen2 72B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Max 0902 | Delta |
|---|---|---|---|
| Identity | |||
| Organization | Alibaba | Alibaba | — |
| Family | Qwen | Qwen | — |
| License | Tongyi Qianwen | Proprietary | — |
| Open weights | Yes | No | — |
| Release | Jun 7, 2024 | Sep 2, 2026 | — |
| Knowledge cutoff | - | - | — |
| API / provider | Together / Fireworks (ref.) | Alibaba Cloud | — |
| Modalities | text → text | text, image, video → text | — |
| Specs | |||
| Context window | 33K | 1M | B +967K |
| Max output | 8K | 131K | B +123K |
| Parameters | 72B | 2.4T (95B act.) | B +2K |
| Pricing | |||
| Input $/1M | $0.35 | $2 | A +$1.65 |
| Output $/1M | $0.40 | $6 | A +$5.60 |
| Blended $/1M (3∶1) | $0.36 | $3 | A +$2.64 |
| Speed | |||
| tok/s | 65 | - | — |
| TTFT (s) | 0.4 | - | — |
| Reasoning | |||
| MMLU-Pro | — | — | — |
| GPQA Diamond | 37.1 | — | — |
| Humanity's Last Exam | 3.7 | — | — |
| AIME 2025 | — | — | — |
| MATH-500 | — | — | — |
| Humanity's Last Exam (with tools) | — | — | — |
| AA-Omniscience Accuracy | — | — | — |
| AA-LCR v1.1 | — | — | — |
| CritPt | — | — | — |
| MMMU-Pro | — | — | — |
| IFBench | — | — | — |
| Chartography | — | — | — |
| Chartography (With Tools) | — | — | — |
| Coding | |||
| SWE-bench Verified | — | — | — |
| SWE-bench Pro | — | — | — |
| SWE-bench Multilingual | — | — | — |
| LiveCodeBench | — | — | — |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 | — | — | — |
| Aider Polyglot | — | — | — |
| Terminal-Bench 3 | — | — | — |
| BigCodeBench | — | — | — |
| SciCode | — | — | — |
| CursorBench | — | — | — |
| SWE-Rebench | — | — | — |
| NL2Repo-Bench | — | — | — |
| DeepSWE | — | — | — |
| WebDev Arena | — | 1,681 | — |
| Terminal-Bench 4.0 | — | — | — |
| CursorBench 4.0 | — | — | — |
| FrontierCode v1.1 (Main) | — | — | — |
| Arena | |||
| LMArena Elo | 1,262 | — | — |
Qwen2 72B Instruct
- Context
- 33K / 8K out
- Parameters
- 72B
- Price
- $0.35 / $0.40
- Speed
- 65 tok/s · 0.4s TTFT
- Modalities
- text → text
- License
- Tongyi Qianwen
Prior-generation Qwen2 72B instruct — predecessor to Qwen2.5 still seen in older hosted stacks.
Qwen3.8 Max 0902
- Context
- 1M / 131K out
- Parameters
- 2.4T (95B act.)
- Price
- $2 / $6
- Speed
- —
- Modalities
- text, image, video → text
- License
- Proprietary
September 2, 2026 hosted post-training snapshot of Qwen3.8-Max, further trained for coding and workplace/agent workflows. Same 2.4T MoE / 95B active architecture, 1M multimodal context, and $2/$6 QwenCloud pricing as the August 3 Max release. Arena Code/WebDev listed qwen3.8-max-0902 at 1688 (preliminary) on the Sep 2, 2026 snapshot.
Benchmark charts
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